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Marine Aircraft Experimental Establishment (MAEE) Helensburgh

MAEE emblem © Robin BirdThe Air Ministry’s Marine Aircraft Experimental Establishment (MAEE) was relocated from Folkestone to Helensburgh/Rhu early in World War II, during the period of the Phoney War of 1939/1940. Classified Top Secret at the time, the move north was motivated by the need to ensure the establishment did not attract the attentions of German spy planes or bombers. MAEE had been established at Folkstone since 1924.

MAEE was partnered with the Airborne Forces Experimental Establishment (AFEE), which began life at Ringway (now Manchester airport) in 1940, and was also to move, first to Sherburn, near Leeds in 1943, then Beaulieu in 1945.

Little detail was known of MAEE’s activities, and no pictures were known of when we first learned of the establishment in 2005. However, we are grateful to the generosity of Robin Bird, who has given permission for us to include details and images from his book TOP SECRET WAR BIRD OF WORLD WAR TWO, which tells the story of of his father, Bob Bird, who was “A Government photographer taking top secret pictures of weapons to sink U-Boats and experiments by airborne forces preparing for the D-Day Invasion”.

Published as a memorial, Top Secret War Bird is no longer available, however Helensburgh Library has retained a copy for reference.

Information Appeal

Robin Bird is still seeking details regarding MAEE, and would be grateful for any information that may be available. He may be contacted directly by email at robinbird@lordbirdforth.wanadoo.co.uk

If you do not have email, you may also use our Contact Form to pass any details, or leave a comment below, and we will forward them on your behalf.

February 21, 2007 - Posted by Apollo | Appeal, Aviation, World War II | , , , | 5 Comments

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  3. I continue to reseach MAEE@ Helensburgh and am amazed
    by the amount of work carried out. Besides tests to
    sink Tirpitz and U-Boats, MAEE converted captured
    Heinkel He 115 float planes for clandestine operations,
    such as landing secret agents in Europe. ‘Bouncing Bomb’
    tests were carried out using a Wellington bomber while
    MAEE had Sunderlands converted to carry human torpedoes.
    I am meeting a man who served with MAEE Helensburgh and hope
    to have more info. Meanwhile has any one a copy of the
    recent article on the subject in the Helensburgh Advertiser?

    Comment by robin bird | June 23, 2007

  4. Robin, good to hear that you are still digging around for information. I have an increasing amount of info about MAEE (including testflight reports of Spitfire on floats) and was planning on doing a book (sometime in the future) on Seaplane Heritage on the Clyde in general. Been a bit too busy getting the seaplane G-DRAM up and flying though. Interested in collaborating ?

    Comment by Hamish Mitchell | July 17, 2007

  5. Did a Mr Greame Keith not have something to do with this experiment?

    Comment by Magnus Inglesbergen | August 26, 2008


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