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Has the CSO (compulsory sales order) died a natural death?

One of the ideas for dealing with vacant/derelict properties that failed to convince me of its effectiveness was the proposed CSO or Compulsory Sales Order, which would have allowed an order to issued to force the sale of a vacant property, but it wasn’t absolute, so, if there were no buyers, or reasonable offers, then the owner was not obliged to sell at any cost.

At least that was what I read in articles published about it at the time it was being proposed.

I fear some people may have ‘Heard what they wanted to hear’ about this proposed legislation, and interpreted it as a variation on a CPO or Compulsory Purchase Order, or a suggestion that councils had suddenly developed bottomless pockets, and would be buying up such properties.

Note this line I quote from an article reporting that the CSO legislation has apparently been dropped:

The introduction of CSOs – which would allow local authorities to buy homes after other legal avenues were exhausted – is viewed as a key tool in fixing the problem.

SNP MSP questions Scottish Government priorities after manifesto pledge dropped

It’s a moot point, but I don’t think that interpretation is entirely accurate. A council COULD buy a property if it wanted it AND paid a fair price, like any other buyer, but while the owner may be compelled to sell it, that would only happen if those criteria were satisfied.

I DO get the aim this would have of bringing properties to market (if it was well-formed legislation), but I still doubt it qualifies as ‘key tool’, and would better seen as one of a collection of tools.

Tools better thought over a considered period, rather than perhaps being knee-jerk reactions.

Derelict House

Derelict House

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10/09/2019 Posted by | Civilian, council, Lost | , , , | Leave a comment

Still not getting the logic of CSOs (Compulsory Sales Orders)

Other than a means of forcing the sale of property in a way which allows councils to escape having to pay for them, as it currently has to if a CPO (Compulsory Purchase Order) is enacted, I’m still not convinced that CSOs have anything to do with bringing abandoned or derelict property back into use.

I remain to be convinced.

If forcing the sale of a property is going bing it back into use, which presumably means it is worth something, or can be used profitably, then why would the owner have to be FORCED to sell it?

If it’s so good, then they should be investing in it, and reaping the profit themselves.

Unless the CPO also invokes… magic!

Papers for the committee state homes can become empty for various reasons including bereavement and inheritance.

The Glasgow City Council submission stated: “The introduction of Compulsory Sales Orders should be implemented as soon as possible as these would enable local authorities to force the sale of a derelict or abandoned property if it has been lying empty for more than 12 months.”

Fife Council said the orders could be an “easier and less complicated tool” than the current Compulsory Purchase Orders, which tie the council in to purchasing the empty property, a view echoed by Angus Council.

West Dunbartonshire Council said: “The introduction of Compulsory Sale Orders could play a role in assisting Empty Homes Officers to encourage home owners to either rent, sell or move into the empty home.”

Rural Housing Scotland also backs CSOs, as does housing and homelessness charity Shelter Scotland and the Scottish Empty Homes Partnership.

The latter two organisations said in a joint submission that CSOs, as with all enforcement options, “should never be a first choice approach for bringing empty homes back to use”.

Glasgow City Council backs plans to introduce compulsory sales orders for empty homes

Thought for the day

Could a CSO be served on the council that brought the system into existence?

Or, will it write immunity for itself into such legislation, to avoid being caught by its own enforcement system?

Tollcross Winter Garden and Visitor Centre, derelict since 2011.

Tollcross Winter Gardens Visitor Centre January 2017

Tollcross Winter Gardens Visitor Centre January 2017

17/05/2019 Posted by | Civilian, council, Lost, photography | , , , , | Leave a comment

Decay at Tollcross Winter Garden just goes on and on and…

I decided not to bother with a January 2019 ‘Annual pic of Shame’ of the derelict Winter Garden in Tollcross Park this year, for no other reason than that I could use ANY recent pic from the past few years to show how sad this once beautifully restored structure had become, despite the wondrous and magical promise of a ‘Lasting Legacy’ from the farcical and disruptive 2014 Glasgow Commonwealth Games.

Who knows how much money was poured into the useless swimming pool lying only a few metres from some REAL Glasgow heritage (see below for the answer), or into yet more upgrades made there later.

However, when I stopped by the glasshouse a few days ago, I noticed that the rot was now REALLY beginning to set in.

It can only be a matter of time before it reached a state of decay which forces the city’s planner to order its demolition – it is now starting to FALL apart.

This is the pic I originally stopped to take, and you can see that the east ridge of the glasshouse has now started to collapse into the interior.

Click for a little bigger. Compare to pics from 2015.

Tollcross Winter Garden Glasshouse East Ridge Collapse

Tollcross Winter Garden Glasshouse East Ridge Collapse

At the same time, I noticed that an assault by vandals, which I suggested was imminent in a recent post, on the glass doors and walls of the adjacent Visitor Centre, had probably taken place too, as the whole of the Visitor Centre was now clad in wood shuttering. Since there had only been a few sheets raised over the years, I can only assume these were added after the glass panels that make up the doors and walls were attacked.

Click for slightly bigger.

Tollcross Winter Garden Visitor Centre Wood Shuttering

Tollcross Winter Garden Visitor Centre Wood Shuttering

There’s not really much to say.

I’ve seen poster asking people to attend meetings, but I only see these after the event, so have no idea if anything productive comes from this, or they are just ignored.

It’s such a shame that this building was both restored AND had the Visitor Centre added for less than £2 million.

That alone shows how little of the £340 million (probably more) that was squandered on the ‘Lasting Legacy’ would have been needed to save this feature, which could have been promoted as a 2014 tourist attraction, being so near to the swimming pool event.

I wonder how much WAS spent on that already supposedly world class swimming venue?

According to reports, “The Tollcross Swimming Center underwent a nearly-$20 million (£13.8 million) upgrade ahead of the 2014 Commonwealth Games.

Would you also believe that back in 2014, the (clearly corrupt or moronic) Commonwealth Games promoters were actually using the ALREADY CLOSED AND DERELICT Winter Gardens ‘hothouse’ as part of the attraction they were ;selling to visitors in their advertising and promotional rubbish

Fast facts

Tollcross International Swimming Centre is located in Tollcross Park. The park covers 83 acres and the land was purchased for £29,000 in 1897. The park’s opening ceremony coincided with Queen Victoria’s Diamond Jubilee.

Tollcross Park has many outstanding features, including a Children’s Farm, International Rose Garden and refurbished hothouses known as the Winter Gardens.

You could not make this sort of stuff up and expect to be believed, but thanks to the Internet and their web pages this can be quoted and referred to (until they are embarrassed, and delete the evidence one day).

Let’s not forget another £25 million just frittered away to attract YET ANOTHER sporting event.

Maybe somebody should suggest hosting 5-aside games, or ping-pong, or maybe just World Tiddlywinks in the glasshouse, and ask for funding!

28/02/2019 Posted by | Civilian, council, photography | , , , , | Leave a comment

Two stories and the problem of derelicts – no easy answer

I noticed the proposal to introduce CSOs (Compulsory Sales Orders) a while ago…

Proposed Compulsory Sales Order seems less than helpful

Compulsory Sales Orders – Solving a problem, or just moving it along?

And had that little pair of rambles, hoping to gain a better understanding of the idea, but don’t really think it helped a lot.

I keep having the same reservation – if the places described are so good that either a compulsory sale (or maybe even purchase) was the easy answer, then the current owner would have taken advantage of what they had.

In reality, I suspect many of the properties concerned are money pits, either from the point of view of just owning them (with crippling maintenance, or cost of ownership), or would cost so much to restore or convert to repurpose that the whole thing is just uneconomic.

There is probably another option, where they could be successful or profitably repurposed, but the owner doesn’t have, or can’t raise, the capital needed to carry out the work.

Compulsory Sales Orders

Radical new powers allowing councils to order the sale of “eyesore” derelict sites and vacant land across Scotland are to be introduced, the Scottish Government has confirmed.

Empty homes, abandoned shops, derelict hotels and gap sites could be among those targeted by the introduction of compulsory sale orders (CSOs) after planning minister Kevin Stewart said they would be introduced in the course of this Parliament.

The move to bring in CSOs by 2021 would allow councils to force owners to sell such sites at auction instead of allowing them to lie empty where they are seen to be causing “harm” to local communities by attracting problems such as anti-social behaviour.

However, there are concerns about whether councils will have the funding or expertise to bring forward such measures.

The CSO proposal was a key recommendation of the 2014 Land Reform Review Group.

Stewart has confirmed in a parliamentary answer the Scottish Government will introduce the orders by 2021 after proposals drawn up by the Land Commission.

Councils already have powers to buy land through CPOs, but this would involve the authority making the purchase itself, which it may not always have the funds to do. There is also a community “right to buy” for sustainable development, but it may not be appropriate for the smaller scale development envisioned for CSOs.

New powers will allow councils to order sale of Scotland’s derelict sites

It will be interesting to see how this works in reality.

I wonder if it would be appropriate for the following case?

I’m not suggesting a CSO would/should be applied, merely placing the two stories together here.

Historic house is a ‘rotten tooth waiting to be pulled’

Fears have been raised over the future of one of Aberdeen’s historic buildings.

Westburn House, an A-listed building designed by renowned architect Archibald Simpson, was built in 1839 but has lain empty for nearly two decades.

During that time it has fallen into a state of disrepair and is repeatedly attacked by vandals.

Local councillor Bill Cormie branded it a “rotten tooth waiting to be pulled”.

He told STV News: “Westburn House is in a dreadful state, it’s almost in a state of collapse.

“There has been nothing really done to this building for over the last 20 years now.

“I managed to get into it four years ago and it was pretty horrific at that time.

“I think last winter, when we had a hard snow, really killed the roof off with the snow lying on top of it and I believe most of the back end of it now has collapsed into the building itself.”

The building, in Westburn Park, has seen many uses over the years, serving as a home, a clinic, tearoom and a nursery.

In 2016, councillors approved plans by Elgin-based company Liberty Kids to turn it into a modern nursery, where youngsters would enjoy plenty of space to roam around outdoors. However, the project failed to move forward.

Historic house is a ‘rotten tooth waiting to be pulled’

I don’t really know enough of the details to suggest anything as regards this building.

But what does make me wonder is how the ability to impose any sort of compulsory order on it would help.

If owners/developers are skint, then forcing something to be done with no cash behind it seems unproductive.

It might make some work for somebody, but doesn’t do much for the building(s).

Maybe I’m just being too ‘simple’.

Westburn House, Westburn Park, Aberdeen

Westburn House, Westburn Park, Aberdeen

09/01/2019 Posted by | Civilian, council | , , , , | Leave a comment

Yet another ‘derelict’ initiative

After the recent news of attempts to use legislation to force owners of derelict property to sell it, there is news of an initiative intended to rejuvenate vacant and derelict land.

I wonder if there is any connection or relation between those behind these efforts, and the coincidental timing of their appearance?

A task force to develop some of Scotland’s 12,000 hectares of vacant and derelict land is being launched.

A register of disused property was set up 30 years ago but the total area – around twice the size of Dundee – has barely changed since.

The project aims to find ways of bringing derelict land back into productive use.

The target of the task force is to halve the amount of land on the register by 2025.

The group – set up by the Scottish Land Commission and the Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Sepa) – will examine the impact on vacant land of planning policy and legislation.

It will also look at practical ways for the land to be utilised.

Task force to develop derelict land in Scotland launched

As with the preceding housing initiative, while I don’t want to be misinterpreted as being in some way opposed to the idea, I do have similar concerns.

If those houses, and now this land, is such ‘hot property’, why haven’t the existing owners cashed in, and made some money, instead of (probably) losing money by leaving their supposed gold mines undeveloped?

I speak from sad experience, having inherited a small house, ended up paying various charges/bills/taxes associated with it, and then had to sell at a loss to get rid of it and its associated liabilities.

While every case is different, I can’t help but wonder at the wisdom of effectively ‘forcing’ sales and development of land and property (which has not inspired such a thing on its own), and how long such forced projects will survive once the novelty has worn off, and they have to survive on their own merits.

It would be interesting to see, after say 10 year or so perhaps, how many of the projects arising from this sort of legislation are still in place and economic, and how many have not been sustainable, and reverted to back to vacancy or dereliction.

Coincidentally, there were two stories seen in the news along with the above, one related to possible success, and the the other to failure.

In the first, refurbishment of an abandoned dry dock has led to positive proposals.

New steel could be made from metal recycled from decommissioned offshore oil and gas structures under a plan for one of Europe’s largest dry docks.

Liberty Steel, part of a group that owns the Fort William aluminium smelter, has proposed constructing an arc furnace for the work at Kishorn.

The dry dock in the west Highlands was established in the 1970s.

It has now been refurbished and made available for new work, including recycling offshore infrastructure.

Arc furnace planned for dry dock at Kishorn

But in the second, dry docks that have lain abandoned and decaying for some thirty years, with no development (although housing seems to be probably), and not attracted any serious commercial development.

Senior politicians from three parties have backed calls for a new industrial strategy to help “save” former ship repair sites on the Clyde.

A letter to First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says the Inchgreen dry dock in Greenock and Govan Graving Docks have needlessly been allowed to decay.

Campaigners want an action plan to stop marine industry sites being lost to housing or retail development.

The owners of both sites have insisted they have plans for their future.

The STUC along with 23 MPs and MSPs from the SNP, Labour and the Greens have endorsed a joint letter to the first minister from the Campaign to Save Inchgreen Dry Dock and the Clyde Docks Preservation Initiative.

Call for industrial strategy to ‘save’ crumbling Clyde docks

While the first story about Kishorn looks hopeful, being based on an actual proposal for commercial use, sadly, the second seems to be little more than hot air from those with political motives, and claims that amount to ‘Conspiracy Theories’.

I worked in some of those docks, and it’s always been depressing to see that nobody came up with a practical and economic use for them years ago, before they decayed.

If they were so good, why didn’t one, or more, of the successful overseas shipbuilders snap them up years ago, when they could probably have been acquired for ‘Fire Sale’ prices?

We’ll see.

These docks are outside my range, but I found a great night pic, taken in 2008, from Thomas Nugent’s collection.

Construction of a floating jetty for the MOD continues night and day in Inchgreen dry dock

Construction of a floating jetty for the MOD continues night and day in Inchgreen dry dock

25/09/2018 Posted by | Civilian, council | , , , | Leave a comment

An oldie in Oswald Street

I once thought it would be a nice idea to catch views of some the old surviving buildings in Glasgow.

That was so long ago, cameras only had film in them, and the electronic bits only controlled the exposure.

But even that far back, I gave the idea up after only two weeks (or weekends to be accurate) since it quickly became obvious, even then, that most of the crusty, wrinkly, old buildings were long gone, leaving (mostly) those that had survived with some sort of use, or those that were abandoned, derelict, and featureless. Utilitarian types with nothing to distinguish one from another. The type where a pic of one is a pic of all.

But…

It’s still possible to find a few surprises, such as this fragment I spotted by chance in Oswald Street.

There’s a nice sandstone building to its left – but much of the rest is gone now, with new builds having taken most of the street over in recent years.

This is close to being a gap site.

Oswald Street Remnant

Oswald Street Remnant

It shows another ‘feature’ I once thought of wandering around the city and collection from old buildings, but I was too late for that one too, most having weathered to the extent that they were almost invisible to the camera, even if the eye could still make them out.

Almost gone, this is only visible evidence of the once common signs painted on many of these buildings in their day.

I looked at the rest of the façade, but the decayed surface had lost any details that might once have been visible.

Oswald Street Sign Remnant

Oswald Street Sign Remnant

The shop unit on the right hasn’t seen a decent/real occupant for years, and remains unoccupied.

I suspect if the two remaining units ever go, this would soon become a proper ‘gap site’ which would be easier to sell.

19/09/2018 Posted by | Civilian, council, photography | , , , | Leave a comment

Adelaide beats Glasgow in glasshouse restoration

Glasgow (and even Scotland) has a dismal record regarding the preservation and maintenance of the few historic glasshouses (or winter gardens) in its care.

Examples such as Springburn Winter Gardens have long lain in ruins, and although I can’t get there now, was sad to learn that the glasshouse in Ayr’s Bellisle Park had been closed in 2005, and I saw the sad sight of it boarded up, but thanks to local efforts had been restored and reopened in 2016.

Surely the worst case (since it was rescued but then dumped only a few years later) now has to be Tollcross Winter Gardens (not forgetting its once new Visitor Centre).

In summary, the Winter Garden glasshouse in Tollcross Park was last rescued and refurbished in the period 1999/2000, having then lain derelict for at least a decade, and at risk of being lost at worst, or left to be vandalised or rot at best. However, £1.7 million was raised to save it then, when it also gained an adjacent Visitor Centre, café, and play area.

But, having suffered storm damage during the winter of 2010/2011, it was simply closed and left to rot, with lack of cash being given as the reason.

While Glasgow City Council squandered more than £300 million paying to host the farcical 2014 Commonwealth Games, and spent freely on ‘upgrades’ for the Commonwealth Pool in the sports centre only a few metres from the stricken glasshouse, not a penny could be found to restore what would have been a better tourist attraction – since it would always be there, unlike the ten days or so of sporting madness of the dopey games that were ‘Here today, gone tomorrow’.

Since the hull of the clipper ship ‘City of Adelaide’ (aka The Carrick) went there, I get automated news updates, which include articles relating to Adelaide.

This story about what would appear to be the only such glasshouse in the southern hemisphere was just highlighted, and puts Adelaide ahead of Glasgow in this particular race.

Being a sole survivor of war is a burden few ask for, but when you fall under the weather and weigh 22 tonnes, you can be sure to draw attention.

The Palm House in Adelaide’s Botanic Gardens is undergoing its second restoration in about 25 years, with a team of painters and builders treating it for salt damp and rust incursion.

Plants have been moved out and cracked glass panes are being replaced, as workers utilise a huge freestanding scaffolding structure that took a week to build inside and around the 1877 structure.

Originally built in Bremen, Germany in 1875, the Palm House was shipped to Adelaide and reassembled, although the glass panes were all broken by the time it arrived.

Following the devastation of subsequent wars in Europe, it remains the only known German-built glasshouse from the era and is Australia’s second oldest.

Andrew Carrick from the Botanic Gardens and State Herbarium said there were similar examples of iron and glass botanical houses around the world, such as the Crystal Palace and the Kew Gardens palm house in London.

“They are the same style with the cast iron, and obviously at a much grander scale, but ours is probably the only one in the Southern Hemisphere,” he said.

It is also possibly the only surviving example of a prefabricated glasshouse, and was originally used for tropical plants until rust incursion in the early 1990s led the gardens to change its use to dry plants from the southern and western tips of Madagascar.

Palm House at Adelaide’s Botanic Gardens stands alone as example of German glasshouse design

Compare and contrast…

The Adelaide glasshouse scaffolding supporting… restoration.

Photo: The palm house was built in Adelaide during 1877 after prefabrication in Germany. (ABC Radio Adelaide: Malcolm Sutton)

Photo: The palm house was built in Adelaide during 1877 after prefabrication in Germany. (ABC Radio Adelaide: Malcolm Sutton)

The Tollcross Winter Gardens scaffolding supporting… what’s left.

Tollcross Winter Gardens ruined

Tollcross Winter Gardens scaffolding

31/08/2018 Posted by | Appeal, council, photography | , , , , , | Leave a comment

Missed this Rutherglen event

I’ve had these pics for a while, but never seem to find the opportunity (or good reason) to post them, but the odd find should be included.

I’d been wandering in Rutherglen for a while, when the rain sent me heading for cover as it turned from just a bit of rain, into a steady downpour that just decided not to let up.

I headed into a derelict industrial unit near the road, and found some unexpected goodies left there. Sure, it had very little roof, but even some roof is better than no roof at all when it’s absolutely chucking it down.

I don’t get there very often, but I’ve never seen anyone else around here when I have been here (even in much better weather.

Hopefully the pics are readable – I haven’t spent any time fettling them, just resized and corrected automatically to make them suit the blog, then dumped the set in here.

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

Rutherglen Oddness

31/08/2018 Posted by | Civilian, photography | , , | Leave a comment

MCLellan Galleries strangeness

Recall the recent post regarding the vanishing porch of the McLellan Galleries.

Since I didn’t seem to able to dig anything up regarding the fate of this venue online (if you know better, PLEASE add a comment below), I decided to make another detour when nearby.

Last time I hadn’t bothered sticking my nose up against the glass doors as they were locked and filthy, but this time I decided to have a closer, just in case I was missing something obvious.

From the previous post, there are NO signs anywhere around the entrance, and I can now confirm there is nothing on show just inside the entrance either.

Although the place is in darkness, with no lights on, my ‘famed’ handheld low light photography skills extracted a view from the gloom (and this was 20:30 with fading exterior evening light).

The sandstone sides of the corridor behind the door can still be seen, with the odd circular detail on each side.

The track lighting system installed on the roof of this entrance corridor is also still clearly visible.

In the distance, the glass doors to the gallery space can be seen, complete with reflections from the street, even showing the steel mesh of the perimeter fence around the current works in Sauchiehall Street (and some sort of ghoulish figure standing in the doorway).

Even some floor detail can be seen.

BUT…

What the heck is that in the upper right of the pic?

It looks like a hole in the ceiling, and view through to the roof of the surrounding building.

Impossible, and I didn’t notice this at the time.

I’m assuming the rational explanation of this merely being a reflection of the building behind the photographer, caught in the gallery’s glass door – which is a fine explanation, were it not for the fact that the lens of the camera was placed against the door, to avoid any reflections. It’s definitely the building behind (from the window design, chimneys, and vegetation – the mystery is just how it came to appear.

I suppose this means ANOTHER visit as soon as possible, just to work out what actually caused that roof segment to be captured in the shot.

My guess is simply a double set of glass doors – so I was able to avoid any reflections in the outer set, but couldn’t do anything about the inner set.

McLellan Galleries Entrance Corridor

McLellan Galleries Entrance Corridor

23/08/2018 Posted by | Appeal, Civilian, photography | , , , , | Leave a comment

What’s happening (or happened) to the McLellan Galleries

When I was finally able to get as far as Sauchihall Street to get a look at the Mackintosh Building, I wandered near the McLelland Galleries, which are almost inaccessible due to road works in Sauchihall Street, unrelated to the closures resulting from the Mackintosh fire.

I thought I was suffering from a touch of ‘brain fade’. Although it’s some time since I had any reason to be near the galleries (since most of the shops that interested me around there have gone), I recalled the galleries had a porch, or portico, extending into the street and providing a sizeable cover to the entrance, as seen in the old pic clip.

McLellan Galleries Porch

McLellan Galleries Porch

Although I thought I’d arrived at the right place, the absence of any porch, or even a sign with the words ‘McLellan Galleries’ to be seen, had me thinking I was in the wrong place (not helped by the likes of Jessop’s being long gone).

But, I was pretty sure I was in the right place, so started looking at the detail of the building entrance, which were the same, and then I spotted the stubs of the girders that used to support the porch.

I hadn’t ‘lost it’!

McLellan Galleries Porch Cut Off

McLellan Galleries Porch Cut Off

The fence around the road works meant I couldn’t stand in front of the entrance to get decent pic, but I found I could get a better view by shooting through the fence, from the other side of the street.

McLellan Galleries Facade Minus Porch

McLellan Galleries Facade Minus Porch

What was more noticeable one I’d confirmed I was looking at the right building was not the absence of the porch, but the fact that I could not see any signs identifying this as the McLellan Galleries, and the derelict nature of the entrance. A stranger or visitor to Glasgow would not know what they were looking at.

Dirty from the works in the street, the place was in darkness. Granted I was there in the evening, but from the limited view through the dirty glass doors, it seemed to be empty inside, with no lights or even security staff to be seen.

I took a look online, but could find no recent references to displays or exhibitions held there.

Nor was there any recent information about the galleries, such as invitations to hold events or exhibitions there, or even a dedicated web site.

Is it derelict?

Has it closed?

Do tell if you know better.

18/08/2018 Posted by | Appeal, Civilian, photography | , , , , | Leave a comment

Joanna Dee’s nightclub

Another one I’d class as forgotten and unnoticed over the years.

I woke up one day, and realised it was time to grab a pic of this place after passing it for years without realising it.

I think the reason I never got around to taking a pic was down to expecting it to disappear before I got back to it. I’m sure I saw the place open, as a pub, but I have no idea what it might have been called during that phase of its existence.

I probably didn’t even notice when it slipped into being an abandoned derelict, since I would pass in the day, and a nightclub opens at… night!

I just began to notice it was decaying one day, and a number of scummy businesses were using as a placeholder for their scabby adverts.

Maybe it’s not abandoned and derelict – I wouldn’t know!

I dug around and discovered it was variously named ‘The Jigging’ (or Jiggin’), and The Netherfield Bar (Nerry or Nelly in various forum discussions).

In discussion, it seems to have been described as one step up from ‘scary‘, which would appear to be ‘mental‘.

Seems it was the scene of murder, and accidents, as noted here…

The Jiggin. (Netherfield), 1071 Duke Street, Glasgow. G31.

I know why old pubs used to manage to survive, standing isolated on their ground while tenements and shops around them were razed, but this, one of the few relics I would describe as a genuine eyesore with nothing to redeem it, one’s survival is a mystery, especially given the reported failure of pubs these days, as many choose to drink at home, rather than socially. It’s hardly sitting in the middle of a thriving community, and the proximity of a college (Glasgow Kelvin College) is unlikely to see it reopen soon.

I’ve got my pic, they can take it away now.

Maybe I’ll get a pic of the cleared site one day, or, being Glasgow, the burnt out shell. I’m surprised the latter has not appeared sooner.

Joanna Dee's Nightclub

Joanna Dee’s Nightclub

02/07/2018 Posted by | Civilian, photography | , , , | Leave a comment

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